Trent Alexander-Arnold (RB) Real Madrid

Boo them all

Opinions differ, and there are various reasons for this. For me, Klopp lost any right to wield the moral cudgel the day he sold his soul to Red Bull. This has been discussed at length here. I’m very grateful for everything he’s given to the club, but he’s completely out of touch with the feelings of some of the local fans and completely blind when it comes to protecting his players at all costs. But that was the case in Dortmund, too. I wish there was a bit more tolerance for different feelings, but that’s obviously illusory.

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So it will be ok for Klopp or anyone to tell non local fans what they think but nope, fans from ‘around here’, are immune.

And I don’t think anyone can control what you want to do with your emotions but if you think it’s ok, then I think it’s fair for someone to come and tell you it’s not ok as with any matter. You can disagree of course but the usage of ‘local’ fans as a reason is a pain. I have plenty of things to say about these distinction of ‘local’ Vs non but I will leave it for another day that I want to see things burn but today, it’s a day of celebration, in Singapore we are having a open bus tour organised by the official fan club through the city before the Palace match.

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Sounds like an evil terror organisation this Red Bull thing.

Based on that we should erase Hendo, Fabinho, Gini and Bobby from Club history for helping the men slaughtering Saudi sports washing maschine.

Oh and don’t forget to count Stevie in.

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Yep.
They can all get fucked too

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Boo, don’t boo. Whatever to me. One thing I do wish for is for Trent’s management team to have handled his exit a little better; be that in being far more transparent which would have probably made his golden swansong possible or just kept their mouth fucking shut until the season was over. For some reason they seem to have expected a Legends tour with adoring fans lining the streets to wish him well and wave goodbye. Arrogance to say the least.

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Or signs for Leverkusen as player-manager.

Well said Livvy

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On the flip side though, they’re just expressing their emotions, what’s wrong with that? That’s quite clearly the bar that’s been set in this thread, no?

If we agree that there are some things that shouldn’t be done in the name of expressing your emotions, where should the line be drawn?

How is it you’ve managed to contradict your first paragraph in your second? I’m sure of course that you’re in tune with the entire local fanbase.

So what next, if Kenny was to come out and say that he was thoroughly upset by the booing, he’s misread the room? If Fagan, Paisley, and Shankly were to come out of their graves to say it was wrong, they’ve misread the room? How many more voices need to come out in opposition to it before “the local fanbase” realise that they’re on the wrong side with this?

Imagine having to tell grown adults that they should be in control of their emotions. Calling them scum is wrong, but condoning the booing, well that takes some special mental gymnastics. I look forward to the hypocrisy when we next see booing at Everton, or any other club.

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OK. A few posts that crossed the line have been deleted, and can I please suggest that everyone just moves on now. We’ve all had our say and this is one of those issue where there is no right/wrong opinion.

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Lock this?
The conversation is done. We have polar opposite views among the group and resolution isn’t going to happen.

The potential for fallout is greater than the need to discuss this any further.

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Boots have held up brilliantly for 20 years. :rofl:

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No matter how many times I read it back I fail to see any contradiction.
I don’t need to be in tune with the entire local fanbase. The over-riding impression I get is a lot more people are unhappy JK said what he did.
As for Kenny as far as I know he hasn’t said anything publically. Maybe he thinks it’s best to stay out of it?
Joe, Bill and Bob are highly unlikely to offer an opinion.
One other thing, people in the game are far more likely to back other people in the game. Footballers are selfish and they are far removed from the average man on the street. They move in different orbits. They’re not always right.

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I’m disappointed with TAA and his exit but “Just for the record, Liverpool gave you everything, not the other way round. The arrogance is astounding” is very unfair.
While I agree with @jaffod that saying nothing may have been better, he’s entitled to say something. Personally I think it disingenuous to talk about ‘20 years’ when he hasn’t even been on a contract for 10 but whatever. I hope he wins nought (mainly because I hate Real) but also I expect that, irrespective of this, he’ll come to realise (like others before him) that it’s a massive mistake to leave Liverpool before you are pushed.

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The manager of Liverpool is right, until they’re no longer the manager? Is that what you’re going with? The act of leaving Liverpool somehow changes something in them so drastically that they’re not right anymore?

What is “the reality of the situation”? Or is simply perhaps your reality?

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Lets be clear, if this happens we’ve got bigger fish to fry than discussing a former player.

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You mean, some of us are so convinced of the “facts” their opinions are based on they won’t acknowledge anything that goes against it?

If you want reality, nobody, outside of Alexander-Arnold himself, knows what is going on. If you ask club insiders what’s going on, you’ll get a different story. Ask a fan on the street who doesn’t pay attention to the media or “rumours”, you’ll get a different story. Ask a Real Madrid club official, and you’ll get yet another story.

There is far too much unknown to be so assertive that “some of us can see it for what it is, others are blinkered”.