No matter how many times I read it back I fail to see any contradiction.
I don’t need to be in tune with the entire local fanbase. The over-riding impression I get is a lot more people are unhappy JK said what he did.
As for Kenny as far as I know he hasn’t said anything publically. Maybe he thinks it’s best to stay out of it?
Joe, Bill and Bob are highly unlikely to offer an opinion.
One other thing, people in the game are far more likely to back other people in the game. Footballers are selfish and they are far removed from the average man on the street. They move in different orbits. They’re not always right.
I’m disappointed with TAA and his exit but “Just for the record, Liverpool gave you everything, not the other way round. The arrogance is astounding” is very unfair.
While I agree with @jaffod that saying nothing may have been better, he’s entitled to say something. Personally I think it disingenuous to talk about ‘20 years’ when he hasn’t even been on a contract for 10 but whatever. I hope he wins nought (mainly because I hate Real) but also I expect that, irrespective of this, he’ll come to realise (like others before him) that it’s a massive mistake to leave Liverpool before you are pushed.
The manager of Liverpool is right, until they’re no longer the manager? Is that what you’re going with? The act of leaving Liverpool somehow changes something in them so drastically that they’re not right anymore?
I made my argument, explained my opinion and why I felt like that. Please don’t try and tell me that how I feel is not how I feel.
You stick to throwing your one line “he honoured his contract” and I’ll stick to the reality of the situation.
Let that be the end of our interactions, as I won’t be making any further replies to you on this topic.
What is “the reality of the situation”? Or is simply perhaps your reality?
Lets be clear, if this happens we’ve got bigger fish to fry than discussing a former player.
There is only one reality. Some of us can see it for what it is, others are blinkered.
“There are none so blind as those who will not see”.
You mean, some of us are so convinced of the “facts” their opinions are based on they won’t acknowledge anything that goes against it?
If you want reality, nobody, outside of Alexander-Arnold himself, knows what is going on. If you ask club insiders what’s going on, you’ll get a different story. Ask a fan on the street who doesn’t pay attention to the media or “rumours”, you’ll get a different story. Ask a Real Madrid club official, and you’ll get yet another story.
There is far too much unknown to be so assertive that “some of us can see it for what it is, others are blinkered”.
So basically, you’re outwardly tired of this drama, but you’ll still peek to see what/s going on?
Yes, you are.
Oh yes.
Ah the rare occasion when a GIF is sufficiently expressive to convey a more complex concept.
Well that’s taught me then.
Maybe I didn’t word it as well as I might have done. What I meant is the manager gets the full backing of the support in any instances where there is conflict with a player. We have to trust the managers judgement.
That’s not to say we can’t disagree on certain things. As for Jurgen, he’s not the manager anymore so it’s a moot point. And like I said, going off social media, other forums and actually talking to other people the general feeling is he should have stayed out of it.
I think that’s what I’m referring to on that point though, because in your post you also said “the manager, the fans, and the players. In that order”. The manager quite clearly comes before the fans. Unless Jürgen himself somehow changed when he left the post, why would you presume it’s something he wouldn’t have said if he was still in charge now?
And in any case, Arne himself was the one who played Alexander-Arnold that day. He’s also expressed his displeasure with the boos. Does that mean that he should have stayed out of it?
No, AS is entitled to have his say and the fans are entitled to disagree with him. Unless he calls us a shower of cunts we’ll all get over it and move on.
To be honest he could probably call us that right now and get away with it.
So you are believing a reality with no foundations because it suits your way of thinking. This is the reason people are replying it is conformation bias on your part because you want it to be.
So are you saying that the fans are a single voice and all agree?
Judging from the small sample here, I’d say your sentence needs to be amended from “the fans are entitled to disagree” to “any fan is entitled to disagree”, if it’s aiming to be correct.