US Election 2024

Or it could be indicating that Trump was benefiting from voter suppression. There’s no information for that. It’s completely meaningless.

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Newsmax was a backer of Trumps though wasnt it?

No idea. Meaningless stats irritate me.

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I’ll edit the title to 2028 or alternatively “No more elections, its the end of Democracy”.

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Yes, context is Newsmax is an upstart news network on the MAGA right that gained a lot of attention in 2020 after MAGA viewers rejected Fox for having called the race for Biden and being slow to get on board the stop the steal movement. That context means this is clearly being used as evidence that Harris won states this time around where it was easier to cheat because of supposedly laxer approach to voter verification.

@peterroberts Ezra’s podcast is absolutely top notch and he did a audio version of this piece on it this week that seemed really on point to me. The caveat is Ezra was not just an early Biden Out liberal, but was popularly credited/accused of having really kick started the movement, and so it makes sense that he is going to gravitate to explanations revolving around Biden’s miscalculations. I think they are right, or at least a part of the explanation, but also important to understand why he was also going to be looking for explanations in this area

He has had a series in the last few months that I think are going to be essential listening for people looking to understand what the new Republican party looks like now Trump is back in. I’ll spend some time digging up the relevent ones and add them to the US politics thread sometime next week.

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https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/11/10/trump-rick-scott-senate-cornyn-thune-mcconnell/

“The president-elect demanded that the next Senate Republican leader allow him to make appointments to his team and the courts without Senate approval.”

Yeah…but…he’s only saying those things…

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“In 2014, the Supreme Court ruled unanimously that President Barack Obama had exceeded his constitutional authority in making high-level government appointments in 2012 when he declared the Senate to be in recess and unable to act on the nominations. At the time, Obama appointed officials to the National Labor Relations Board while the Senate held pro forma sessions every three days — a move Republicans led by McConnell took to thwart Obama’s ability to exercise power.”

One wonders how such an argument would land now…

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Stop being so hysterical. They cannot deport citizens

https://x.com/mjs_DC/status/1855985826179498223

As stories keep coming out about who Trump is planning to install in his administration, watch how many will be Project 2025 contributors and have that be totally absent from the reporting. It’s insightful into how overly credulous the press was of Trump’s clearly BS defenses during the campaign and now look like being moving forward.

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I think at some point people have to stop defending the press and admit that they knew exactly what they were doing with their coverage.

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Everyone knew what they were voting for.

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You give the intelligence of the average American WAY too much credit.

Probably fellating Trump as he posted this.

I hold Americans in the same regard as I always have.

What’s worse is people who move over there. I’m sure they have their reasons, but I wouldn’t do it.

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Politico out there Politicoing its tits off

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Prizes…they have a “fantasy Nazi cabinet” game going on and they are giving prizes. Is there a tie breaker in case two players guess the same number of appointees? Is it number of Americans who are arrested and/or deported as part of the Operation Save Our Pets raids?

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Can someone explain in simple terms @Arminius 's map of USA and the arrows showing the move towards Trump? It seems Kamala only made small gains or small losses (over 2020) in the key states important for EC votes, but tremendous losses in most Democrat strongholds. This is the interesting bit about this election; not the small losses in key states.

What are the main reasons for this?

It shows change in voting patterns between 2020 and 2024. In short, there was a broad national change in preference towards the GOP candidate.

Other data shows Harris combatted that well in the battle ground states where they campaigned heavily, but not enough to make up for the overall change in sentiment.

Why is where you’ll get a lot more differences of opinion, but without weighing the relative importance I would say

  • people just don’t like higher prices regardless of what else is going on
  • Voters did not associate Trump with some of the negative conditions they didn’t like (inflation due to a pathetic Covid response, abortion)
  • we are still in a “kick the bums out” era that naturally swung people away from the incumbent
  • Biden running again really pissed people off. It exacerbated the “they are just not ducking listening” perspective among people dissatisfied with how things were going in their life.
  • people had no idea about any of the issues supposedly in play. Any way you break it down people who were informed and understood whose policies were whose overwhelmingly went for Harris. And for a variety of reason, this is a really badly informed electorate, and where the misinformed spend most of their time online is full of proMAGA ideas.
  • Part of the above is the Dems have a real brand problem. They as a party are blamed for the censorious aspect of our current culture and lots of people felt that in tough economic times (debateable) it is disqualifying to put so much governing energy towards woke instead of materially improving people’s live. Notably, the woke stuff is far more a straw man criticism from the right, and this was an incredibly pro-worker administration by American standards. It just didn’t seem to matter.
  • the administration also did very little to sell its accomplishments so the right was able to define them without much pushback, and regardless of the validity of the view of the administration, Harris was always going to have to carry that as the VP.
  • Trump is awful and the campaign was an absolute moral disgrace, but some people genuinely love it. One of the common reactions has been MAGA frustrations that liberals are taking this result far more in stride than they did in 2016 and they are just desperate to go and find some liberal tears to laugh at and being quite pissed they can’t find much. It is a spiteful movement.
  • Racism and misogyny…I actually don’t buy this. It’s obviously present, with black women being subject to a unique sort of version of it, but this race was fucked before she took over, and where she campaigned she did well. People liked her and her message resonated where it was heard. She just had too much of a deficit to make up in too little time.
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Tulsi really does not suit high definition.

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